Teresa Tomeo’s Show: Follow up on Baptism

by Steve Ray on May 9, 2008

Here are the Bible verses we discussed on Teresa Tomeo's Catholic Connections–aired on Ave Maria Radio, Guadalupe Radio, EWTN and Sirius Satellite Radio:

1) "Noah, during the building of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water. Corresponding to that [Noah being saved through water], baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience—through the resurrection of Jesus Christ," (1 Peter 3:21) 
 
I thought it was faith ALONE that saved us? Why was I blind to this verse? I was confronted by a Baptist once who said, "You Catholics believe you're saved through rituals and sacraments–the Bible says we are saved by Faith alone." I asked him to open his Bible and read 1 Peter 3:21 and asked "Is this the kind of ritual or sacrament you are referring to"? I used to wear Baptist glasses which obscured such verses from my vision.
 
2) "Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Acts 2:38)
 
Why didn't Peter say, "Accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior and ask him into your heart?" Do Evangelicals today use different words and phrases than those used in the Bible? Why? The first Holy Ghost Gospel Message ever preached was "under the big tent" in Jerusalem at Pentecost. Peter preached the Catholic gospel which sounds very different than the Fundamentalist gospel.
 
3) "‘Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.’" (Acts 22:16 )

What did Paul hear from Ananias about how to have his sins forgiven? Again, why not the American Evangelical gospel? How should we read this and apply it today?
 
4) "Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." (John 3:3-5) 
 
What did Jesus mean by "born of water and the Spirit"? Did Jesus just pull this phrase out of thin air, or were there Old Testament percedents that Nicodemus should have been aware of? The first creation was out of water and spirit (Gen 1:1-2), Noah was saved by water and spirit (1 Peter 3:18-21), the nation of Israel was created from water and spirit (1 Cor 10:1-4), etc.

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{ 5 comments… read them below or add one }

Betty King May 20, 2008 at 10:20 AM

I love your way of explaining the quote re (I’m paraphrasing) we make up in our bodies what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ. You said some powerful things about this on the May 9 program with Teresa Tomeo that I would love to see in writing, if possible. Do you treat this any place in your writings? I have a pastor who says, “this is a bad translation and will eventually be changed.” Thank you, Steve, so very much for bringing such great love and clarity to the Church. I love your work and will look forward to a little reply to this – if at all possible. I am an “old” Catholic who spent 17 years in religious life – in a wonderful order which has now some leaders who are so new age and interested mostly, it seems, in saving “Mother Earth.” My heart breaks over the horrible things that are going on in Mother Church here in Canada. Please keep us in your prayers. You are in mine. Thanks. Betty King

Dennis Danielson June 9, 2008 at 7:41 PM

A Lutheran friend of mine, recently married to a Catholic, asked me if I could help him find a Catholic devotional to share with his wife. I am not Catholic. I believe he is looking for something either written by one of the saints or one that includes stories of the saints. However, if you can recommend a good devotional, whether or not it is about the saints, I would be most grateful. Thank you.

Dennis Danielson

john wilson October 27, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Dennis,

There are more options for joint devotions than there are chickens in the world.

Here is a simple one: Divine Mercy Chaplet
Here is a complex one: Liturgy of the Hours

Kevin April 20, 2014 at 1:54 AM

Steve. I was reading another web site that said we don’t need baptism to be saved and quoted Acts 10 where the people had already received the Holy Spirit before they were baptized. The article said this was proof they were saved without baptism.

Kevin

STEVE RAY HERE: Kevin, there are a lot of websites to say a lot of goofy things. Be careful what you read and let you believe. Ask chapter 10 has been used many times as a proof against the need for baptism. That is because people do not understand what happened with Cornelius or the whole situation. They’re wrong. Jesus said unless a man is born of water and the spirit he will not see the kingdom of God, and Saint Peter said that baptism now saves you.

Frank Kinley June 28, 2014 at 10:22 PM

Dear Steve Ray. I Can’t Thank You Enough For All You Are Doing. I Get So Excited To Listen To You Talk On All Of The Different Aspects Of Our Catholic Faith. One Of My Idea’s I Have Been Contemplating Over The Last Couple Of Years Is How Can We Best Pass Along Our Catechism To Our Young People. I Believe There Is Such A Major Disconnect Between Those Who Have A Very Solid Foundation Vs Many Of Our Young Catholic’s Who May Not Be Able To Explain Basic Catholic Teaching. What’s Been Going Through My Heart Is If We Could Get A Small But Impressive Group Of Catholic’s Together (Such As Yourself, Dr.Scott Hahn, Father Robert Spitzer) Essentially Some Of The Best Catholic Minds To Put Together Something That Could Possibly Be Presented To The U.S. Bishops Annual Conference. It Is My Firm Belief That Because Protestants Tend To Have A Better Foundational Understanding Of Scripture, They Mesmerize Catholic’s & Many Simply Fold & Give In To What Appears To Be A Superior Understanding Of The Bible & We Lose Them. ( I Am Fully Aware I Am Preaching To The Choir) But This Small Group Of Excellent Catholic Minds Coming Together Could Possibly Come Up With A Better Way To Reach Our Young Catholic’s. I Just Wanted To Run The Idea By You & See What Your Thoughts Might Be. Thank You Mr. Ray. You Are So Much Appreciated. Peace Be With You. Sincerely In Love & Blessings, Frank Kinley.

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