James White’s Continued Obsession & Nasty-grams

by Steve Ray on April 10, 2009

A bit of background: Catholic convert Patty Bonds — a good friend of mine and the older sister of James White — has told her story of years of sexual abuse at the hands of their father — a Baptist pastor. She has told her story on her website Abba’s Little Girl and on EWTN’s “The Journey Home” (here and here). I wrote about her story here and here. Her latest installment, explaining her brother James White can be read here.

I added this info now and earlier because she has been under vicious attack by her brother ever since her conversion to Catholicism — and especially since she told her story of sexual abuse on EWTN and began helping others who have been sexually abused. Instead of defending or helping his sister, which any sensible brother would do, White has only rubbed salt in her wounds. She asked me to post her story on my blog to help others become aware of her website and story. She wanted to help others find healing as she has found healing. As a friend, I was happy to comply. As a result it has fueled the fire of White’s frenzy.

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UPDATE:

Patty Bonds Responds to her brother James White’s Frenzied Videos — by Acknowledging her Friends and Exposing the Lies

1) This matter discussed by Dr. Art Sippo on his blog.
2)
James White’s older sister Patty Bonds’ (convert to Catholicism) responds to her brother with a grace-filled, honest, heartfelt, and painful response. Nice job Patty! Sorry you have to go through all of this — like rubbing salt in the wound. I think your brother doth protest too much.
3) William Albrecht responds by YouTube, Part I
4) Dave Armstrong weighs in on the issue too. Now expanded.
5) Dave Armstrong documents White’s bizarre obsession with Steve Ray
6) William’s 2nd Video response below on Youtube
7) A Catholic Texan speaks his mind too.

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To explain the background a little bit more: Anti-Catholic James White has demonstrated an almost bizarre obsession with me over the last few years based on what people have told me about his blog and radio shows and the documentation of a bit of it by Dave Armstrong. I do not frequent his blog any more than I frequent the city dump, but people tell me he claims I am irrelevant and unimportant yet to the contrary I am told he is quite infatuated and spends an inordinate amount of time trying to refute and quash me.

He must consider me more important than he claims, and certainly a lot more important than I consider him. I’m told that his latest tirades continue to demonstrate his obsession. Almost reminds me of the 1971 Clint Eastwood movie “Play Misty for Me.” If you have not seen the movie it’s a creepy flick where the anti-hero Evelyn (played by Jessica Walter) is obsessed with Dave (played by Clint Eastwood) and can’t think of anything else. She watches every move and reacts to every word. Even though Clint was flattered at first, he soon realizes he is dealing with a very affected person as the movie progresses.

If I had the least respect for this guy I would take it as a left-handed compliment. Actually its rather sad and I don’t pay much attention any more. He is a whiny, egotistical bore — a huge waste of time. Every time I’ve tangled with him in the past I felt like I needed a shower with a good bar of antibacterial soap. It’ no different now.

pattybonds(Picture: Janet and I interviewing Patty Bonds in Phoenix for upcoming segment of our Defenders of the Faith series.)

My purpose was not to attack her brother, even though he seems to think that it was. Actually I knew about this situation years ago and never said a thing. Other knew too and never said anything. Had we wanted to, we could have — but we did not (see Art Sippo’s comments) because I did not want to use such a tragedy to embarrass anyone or to betray a trust.

It was not until Patty told her story publicly on EWTN’s The Journey Home (link above) and asked me to help publicize her website that I said a word to anyone. Out of my great respect and love for Patty I kept silent because she had become a dear friend to me and my wife and had confided this tragedy to us in confidence. She has also become a dear friend to many other Catholics like Patrick Madrid, Dr. Scott Hahn, Marcus Grodi, and others who appreciated her candor, her forgiveness, and impressive conversion and her love for the Lord Jesus and His Church.

James, on the other hand, is constantly blustering, bullying, and demonstrating what appears to be a deep-seated anger. He thinks I have assisted Patty in making her story known to hurt him. That is because James White seems thinks everything is about him. Actually I feel sorry for a man who seems to live in such a constant state of anger and frustration — even denial, according to his sister’s explanation. I don’t waste time arguing with him — it is futile. I simply pray for him to find peace and conversion.

His older sister Patty has found the grace to forgive. She has a profound peace and tranquility by the grace of God in the heart of the Catholic Church. I have seen it in her eyes and heard it in her words many times.  She is courageous, forgiving and quite candid with her story. If you haven’t met her on her website or read her heartfelt journey out of darkness, I suggest you do. I suggest we all pray for her younger brother to find the same peace his older sister has found.

Anyway, my friend William Albrecht just posted a video on YouTube confronting White’s nasty-grams. I appreciate friends like William. He is a good man. If you have ever heard of James White or are interested in such things, here is the video uploaded to YouTube by my friend William. You may also want to visit Patrick Madrid’s site and read his “The White Man’s Burden” post and get the debate that he makes available. By the way, he is also a good friend of Patty’s and has done much to help her through her darkness into the light.

In the meantime, after a shower, I’m on to more substantial and pleasant endeavors — like Easter and my father’s 90th birthday party and teaching at a university in Rome. Happy Easter everyone!

{ 9 comments… read them below or add one }

Tim April 10, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Why did you find it appropriate to bring such a tragic family issue into this? Is this not the same as when others try to use clergy abuse to refute catholicism?

STEVE RAY HERE: BECAUSE WHITE BROUGHT IT UP AND MADE IT RELEVANT AND BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO EXPLAIN A LOT. I BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE AS RELEVANT AND GERMAIN TO THE TOPIC. I DON’T SEE IT AS HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH USING CLERGY ABUSE TO REFUTE CATHOLICISM. I AM NOT USING IT TO REFUTE PROTESTANTISM, BUT TO HELP EXPLAIN A FEW THINGS IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, NOT LEAST OF ALL THE GRACE AND FORGIVENESS PATTY HAS RECEIVED AND FOUND IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

I FOR ONE HAVE HAD A CLOSE ASSOCIATE WHO WAS SODOMIZED BY A MARRIED BAPTIST DEACON BUT EVEN BACK IN MY FORMER LIFE IT DID NOT PROVE OR DISPROVE ANYTHING ABOUT BAPTISTS; IT ONLY SHOWED THAT ONE BAPTIST WAS AN EGREGIOUS SINNER AND CALLED HIMSELF A BAPTIST WHILE AT THE SAME TIME VIOLATING EVERY SHRED OF BAPTIST DOCTRINE.

debra froat April 10, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Steve did not say that all Baptists were child abusers. He merely pointed out that one man, who happened to be a Baptists pastor, was a child abuser. That is not the same as the media who tries to paint every priest as a serial sex offender.

I admire Patty for speaking out about her abuse. The only way to prevent such acts happening to other children is to be open and forthright about the pain that such events cause in a person’s life. Sexual abuse can be catastrophic for the victim.

LothairOfLorraine April 10, 2009 at 6:08 PM

James White has a video he just posted on YouTube that names you. Until I saw the video I had no idea who you were. Rome rules!

Art Sippo April 11, 2009 at 4:18 AM

I think that Mr. White is going to find that his attack on you and Patty Bonds is going to back fire, Steve. It will draw more attention to this matter than if he had just let it go or just made a modest statement denying the allegations. If I may so, he protesteth too much. I have always believed Patty and I am even more inclined to do so by James’ reaction. I once more implore James White to seek professional help for his own good.

Meanwhile I urge everyone to pray for you, Patty, and James during this trying time.

STEVE RAY HERE: I AGREE. PEOPLE WHO KNOW PATTY KNOW THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION. AND THOSE WHO OBSERVE THE EXTREME REACTION OF WHITE WILL ONLY HAVE IT CONFIRMED. PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME WILL ALSO KNOW THAT WHITE IS BLOWING SMOKE OUT OF BLIND RAGE. IT IS ALREADY BACKFIRING ON HIM. I FEEL SORRY FOR THE MAN. I WILL PRAY ALONG WITH YOU AND OTHERS.

Dave Armstrong April 11, 2009 at 6:23 PM

This is truly outrageous. I, too, have made a post about it on my blog:

http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2009/04/patty-bonds-responds-to-her-brother.html

I’m quite familiar with the “you’re an absolute dolt and dunce and idiot and imbecile and biblically illiterate, who has no relevance, yet I will write 200 posts about you on my blog” routine. White does this to me, too, and one of his good buddies does the same thing constantly. What a joke . . .

A blessed Easter to everyone.

Dave Armstrong April 13, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Hi Steve,

The URL for my original post has now changed, because I had trouble with Haloscan yesterday and had to re-post it. Here is the new one (you’ll need to change the link above: #4 under “Update”):

http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2009/04/patty-bonds-responds-to-her-brother_13.html

We’re having quite a vigorous and healthy discussion on my blog about this whole mess (with both broad “sides” expressed), if anyone wants to join in:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/davearmstrong/8035161210425598297/#176421

STEVE RAY HERE: THANKS DAVE. I FIXED THE LINK AND I HOPE PEOPLE JOIN THE DISCUSSION ON YOUR BLOG.

Steve Ray April 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Thanks Dave. I updated the link. You are a good man! Steve

Brock Restovich April 16, 2009 at 12:08 AM

Wow, this guy is a real piece of work! He should be ashamed of himself for going after his sister like that. One thing I have noticed about Mr. White is that he is really good at putting people down, but horrible at giving a defense of why he does so. Much like his debates. I, too, will keep him in my prayers. Brock

Yahya Snow December 18, 2010 at 12:54 PM

OK, I am a Muslim and have received an email from a Catholic concerning Patty. For some reason this Catholic believes White treats Catholics badly and Muslims better. However, I have recently uploaded audio of James White insulting Mormon ladies and his friend insulting Russian women – ALL based on looks. Yep White and his pal insult women’s looks and gain enjoyment from this:

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/12/james-white-lewd-ridicule-of-mormon-and.html

I have got to say James does not give me a good impression of the church he is from. Are his actions Biblical?

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