Which Church in Shelby?

by Steve Ray on September 18, 2010

Check out my running trip on @EveryTrail: 2010-09-18 Which Church in Shelby NC? http://bit.ly/9Heohl

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Seeker September 21, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Mr. Ray, I checked out your site because I live in Shelby and I had considered attending this event. Although not Roman Catholic at this point, I do have a strong interest in the ancient apostolic churches. I was unfortunately not able to attend. However, I will say as nicely as possible that I was a little disappointed in the mocking of the other churches (okay, “ecclesial communities”) in your photos and the triumphalistic attitude. I would agree that the teaching at the churches you noted is likely terribly flawed, but I would hope you would be above having a little fun with the choir at the expense of others. Yes, I am sure the members of these churches would have terrible, and probably very ignorant, things to say about the Roman church, and perhaps it is wrong of me to be judging you, but I will just say that I would have been more impressed had you stayed above the fray.

Steve Ray September 21, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Dear Seeker, I appreciate your thoughtful comments and concerns. I also appreciate your openness to the Catholic Church as you seek the fullness of the truth.

Just a few comments. First, I am not above the fray. I live in the real world and call it like I see it. I am not a Cardinal or Bishop, not even a deacon, just a common layman who lives in the fray and comments on it as I go along. Sometimes people like what I write and sometimes it ruffles feathers, but Jesus was not adverse to ruffling a few feathers too

Second, I am not just speaking to the choir since they already know, at least many of them, especially the converts among us, the problems and silliness of thousands of competing “churches” which are in schism from the one Church founded by Jesus 2,000 years ago. This multiplicity of redundant “churches” is a discredit to Jesus who prayed we would all be one as he is one with the Father — that we be perfected in unity (visible unity) so that the world will be able to say “The Father sent the Son!” Unity is crucial to the spread of the gospel — and the disunity of the multiplicity of factions, schisms, and cults give the world the right to say, “The Father did not send the Son!”

Third, I am also writing to those outside the Catholic Church in hopes they will see the scandal and outrageous condition that was begun at the “Reformation” with the hopes they will have their eyes opened to the problem and seek the solution, which is the “one, holy, Catholic and apostolic Church.

God bless Seeker. I hope you join us and again I am sorry if you were offended by my candid comments.

Seeker September 21, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Mr. Ray, thank you for commenting personally. Maybe it wasn’t my place to call you out. I’ll admit I’ve made similar comments myself. I drive past the fundamentalist church signs every day. I think what just ruffled my feathers was that I felt that it was a Catholic having a laugh with other Catholics at the expense of people that really deserve sympathy more than anything. This is one of the poorest counties in the state. The drop-out and unemployment rates are appalling. For most of the church goers in the county, their knowledge of church history goes back to Billy Graham– or maybe Moody or Spurgeon, if they’re lucky. Like the great majority of Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, etc., they believe what their parents or pastors told them growing up. Their doctrinal flaws, in most cases, are not intentional or malicious. I am sure most honestly believe they are seeking to serve God to the best of their ability. Yes, the divisions are a scandal, and I don’t have the answer for that. I’m not yet convinced that it’s Rome, but that’s complicated.

This is probably enough for a blog comment. Maybe I’ll E-mail sometime. People I trust say that you’re a good man. I’ll try to believe the best.

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