Art, Music & Science

DAVE PALM WRITES: The really exciting thing about this latest update of Geocentrism Debunked (www.geocentrismdebunked.org) is that I didn’t write any of the new material myself.  Others are seeing the problems with the geocentric enterprise and weighing in.

 Over four years ago physicist Dr. Tom Bridgman issued the “Lagrange point challenge” in response to geocentrist Rick DeLano’s breezy claim that “Geocentrism perfectly accounts for LaGrange points”. We’ve already seen in past articles that their “answer”, four years in the making, consisted of basic math blunders and material plagiarized wholesale from two scientists. Now, in a new article Dr. Bridgman adds his own commentary on the failure of the new geocentrists to meet his challenge:  Dr. Tom Bridgman Weighs in on Geocentrists Flunking the Lagrange Point Challenge (http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/bridgman-on-flunking-lagrange-challenge/)

 Camille M. Carlisle, the science editor at Sky & Telescope magazine, has weighed into the geocentrism controversy with a new article. I am very pleased that other people of faith—in this case specifically a Catholic—are pointing out that the arguments deployed by the new geocentrists are not just bad science, but bad philosophy and bad theology as well.  Wow, bad science, bad philosophy, bad theology—it’s a dangerous combination.  See Protecting Faith From Pseudoscience, by Camille Carlisle (http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/carlisle-protecting-faith-from-pseudoscience/)

 Robert Sungenis, the leader of the modern geocentrists, attempted to rebut Miss Carlisle and demonstrated yet again that he is simply not competent to handle even high school level physics.  Dr. Alec MacAndrew has drafted a new piece pointing out still more basic errors in Sungenis’s work. These are compounded by Sungenis’s replacement of the well-known and perfectly adequate mechanism of gravity with a made-up medium that, “magically [does] just what he needs it to do, while remaining completely undetectable whenever he doesn’t need it.”  See “Elementary Physics Blunders in Sungenis’s Reply to Sky and Telescope’s Camille Carlisle” (http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/sungenis-elementary-physics-blunders/).

 And I found a great article written some months ago by one “Anthony T”, who does a fine job of critiquing geocentrism scientifically, philosophically, and theologically.  Be sure to check out Geocentrism: A Dangerous Pseudo-Science by “Anthony T” (http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/geocentrism-a-dangerous-pseudo-science-by-anthony-t/)

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UPDATE
Jimmy’s Critique of CONTENT of the Principle movie
http://jimmyakin.com/2014/11/whats-wrong-with-the-principle.html

the principleRecently the Register asked me to reviewThe Principle—a documentary that promotes geocentrism, or the idea that the earth is at the center of the universe.

This film is much smaller than most of those the Register reviews. Indeed, at the time of this writing it has only reported $16,826 at the box office—half of which was made in a single theater on its opening weekend.

But the film is being disproportionately discussed in conservative Catholic circles, so I agreed.

Like any documentary, this one can be looked at more than one way. One perspective concerns the production values and how well it is executed. Another concerns the content of the film and how successfully it argues its case.

In this piece, we will look at how well The Principle works as a documentary film. In a subsequent piece, we will look at its content.

So how does it work cinematically?

It’s not the worst documentary I’ve ever seen.

For the whole article, click HERE.  For a full discussion of Geocentrism visit GeogentrismDebunked.

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Update on Geocentrism Debunked

by Steve Ray on October 21, 2014

For those following the debate about whether the earth actually is the center of the universe with everything spinning around the earth, check out this latest update posted by my friend Dave Palm. You can read the whole thing here http://www.geocentrismdebunked.org/the-cmb-and-geocentrism/

 Here are the introductory paragraphs:

The New Geocentrists have been claiming for some time that recent measurements of certain cosmological features “point straight at the Earth”, and that therefore the Earth must be in the centre of the Universe. More recently, they have been promoting their movie, The Principle, which they hype as “one of the most controversial films of our time”. The movie is ostensibly about a “fair, balanced and comprehensive treatment” of the Copernican Principle – the proposition that the Earth is not in a central or favoured position in the cosmos.

Of course, it is well known that the movie’s principals, Robert Sungenis and Rick DeLano, are strict geocentrists who believe, for religious reasons of their own, that the Earth is absolutely static and located at the exact centre of the Universe. Strict geocentrism has been superseded for centuries – and there are clear modern refutations of the idea. Strict geocentrism is also a far more extreme position than would necessarily follow if the Copernican Principle were to be violated. It is clear that The Principle movie is a Trojan Horse for strict geocentrism, even though DeLano in particular claims that the film contains no more than an examination of the Copernican Principle.

Chief amongst the recent cosmological measurements that geocentrists highlight in support of their case are certain anomalies in the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB), the afterglow of the Big Bang. This article describes the science of the CMB, reviews the anomalies, and discusses what implications they have for cosmology in general and for the claims of the geocentrists in particular.

We’ll also briefly review some other theories and observations that have the potential to challenge the Copernican Principle, and consider what implications they might have. In this article, I hope to provide a resource for thoughtful people who are unsure about the strength of the claims that the geocentrists make about modern cosmology, to help them to a better understanding of the science and what it actually implies.

The geocentrists approach to the issue is deeply unscientific, in the sense that they are committed a priori to the idea that the Earth is static in the exact centre of the Universe, and they excavate and use any piece of evidence that appears to support their case – even if it is fundamentally incompatible with some other argument that they have made elsewhere.

Their belief is unshakeable in the face of any and all evidence to the contrary. What’s more, by misunderstanding or misrepresentation they often mangle the science, and they make far stronger claims than the evidence warrants, as we shall see.

For the rest of the article and illustrations, visit HERE.

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“My First Confession”: Hilarious! Irish Storytelling at its Best!

October 5, 2014

Not only Irish storytelling at its best, but also Batt Burns at his best. After dinner tonight we all went up to a private room and Pat Burns entertained us for an hour. He had us with tears in her eyes both from laughter and from sadness which is what a good storyteller can do. [...]

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Prepare for the Fringe Geocentric People: Catholics Claiming the Earth is the Motionless Center of the Universe

July 18, 2014

UPDATE 7/20/14, 9:15 PM Eastern: There must be a network of Geocentrists who quickly call each other to defend their position. As soon as I posted this blog about the geocentric system I got a bunch of comments within that matter of a few hours which demonstrated to me that someone sent out the message [...]

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Some Catholics Live in Nutsville; Does the Sun Really Revolve Around the Earth?

December 16, 2013

They wake up every morning and think the sun revolves around the earth. They live in a different universe than the rest of us. They want you to join their new alternate reality. These folks are marginalized and relatively unknown – and for good reason. They live in Nutsville, a cult that dwells on the [...]

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Google and the Vatican Work Together so you can Tour the Catacombs in Rome

November 27, 2013

Early Christian burial sites are now easier to see, both in person and via the Internet, thanks to 21st-century technology and collaboration between Google and the Vatican. “This is perhaps the sign of the joining of two extremes, remote antiquity and modernity,” said Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi at a news conference Tuesday at the Catacombs of [...]

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What Kind of Music Did Abraham Listen To?

May 30, 2013

Our next DVD in the Footprints of God series will be entitled “Abraham, Father of Faith & Works.” We will begin filming in Iraq — in Ur of Chaldees — which is the home of Abraham, just south of Baghdad (Gen 11:28-31). Thanks to the Biblical Archaeology Society to which I subscribe, we can now listen to music [...]

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Ireland 4: Fantastic Night of Irish Song & Dance – including our pilgrims!

September 26, 2012

The locals all showed up at the pub until way late to teach us to sing and dance. What a great evening with the talented yet simple towns folk.

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Incredible New Video “From Conception to Birth”

March 21, 2012

Make sure everyone sees this because it is a marvelous argument against abortion. This is new technology that won its inventors the Nobel Prize. It pulls back the curtain on the developing baby and the mystery inside the womb. Hang in there for the first three minutes while he is explaining the technology — the [...]

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Atheism Rationally Explained :-)

February 29, 2012

ATHEISM: The belief that there was absolutely nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits of random stuff thrown together by chance which then turned into dinosaurs who crawled out of [...]

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Scientists Concluding Universe had a Beginning? God Smiles!

February 28, 2012

Scientifically this is big news. In the January 2012 edition of New Scientist Magazine it was stated that scientists are now facing up to the problem of the universe having a beginning – until recently they could postulate that it was eternal and the main theories to support this were “eternal inflation” and “multiverses”. However, [...]

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From Largest to Smallest in the Universe and Back; How Big is God?

February 24, 2012

How important are we in the big picture? What is the biggest thing in the universe and if you delve down, what it the smallest? This is a well-done sliding, interactive “video” show that you control. Click on each item along the way for further information. Force yourself out of your little world and see [...]

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A Poem entitled “Bethlehem”by Joe Marmion, one of our recent pilgrims

November 11, 2011

Bethlehem 2011 By Joe Marmion Pilgrim on October 28, 2011 Pilgrimage Pictures taken in Bethlehem’s Chapel of the Angels My favorite line in Joe’s poem, is the last line. Remember that day he took fresh straw and swept the clods and dung away to clear a place for his wife to lay? She was the [...]

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Did You Know the Sun actually Revolves around the Earth?

September 1, 2011

Yes, the earth is stationary and the center of the universe. The sun and planets revolve around the earth. And not only that but the earth does not rotate. All of this is known by “Catholic geocentrics” who deny everything we know from science and proclaim that the Catholic Church infallibly teaches a geocentric universe. [...]

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Dion DiMucci still Rocks – Spoke Together at Steubenville

July 31, 2011

Most Rock n’ Rollers end up badly in old age, if they ever get to old age. I spent time again with one this weekend that has a done very well – Dion DiMucci of the Dion and Belmonts from the late 50′s and early 60′s – and beyond. He is famous for Run Around [...]

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